I started jake on ldn 7/26 and since that time he is still walking, hooray! Yesterday he came upstairs to my room. That's 13 stairs each way. We have not used the sling to assist him at all and when he walked around the vet's office yesterday all she kept saying was " it's remarkable, it's like a miracle". He had a CBC and full Chemistry panel that I found out today are all normal. I am posting this here because the 2 DM sites I joined were not very accepting of ldn as a treatment and I wanted to share with some people who would understand and I guess be happy with us. Thank You for allowing me to post. jackie
I am so happy to read that LDN works for DM in canines! I do Boxer Rescue, and over the last 5 years have been seeing an increasing number of Boxers with DM.
One of my own dogs, Buddy, a shep. mix, has been on LDN since June. It's hard to put a name to what was going on with Buddy, other than to call it an "auto-immune meltdown". He had a parathyroid tumor, had it surgically removed and seemed to be doing pretty well. Then he developed a vit B-12 deficiency, and then had symptoms of IBS, or IBD. That's when I started the LDN (had a few discussions with my vet before I got him to prescribe it). Buddy began to improve within a few days, and within 4 weeks was doing great. That was when I started to "second-guess" myself and decided that "traditional medicine" had done all the good work and my LDN idea was just a desperate measure on my part..... So, I didn't refill the script.
5 days later, Buddy was less active and just plain didn't feel as well, so I refilled the script. Thank goodness I did, that is likely what kept the immune mediated skin "eruptions" confined to 1 side of his body.
What dosage do you give the dog? I'm wondering if LDN would help my friend's dog? The vet isn't sure what's wrong, but her dog can't use his back legs very well at all. The vet said it's either a ruptured disc or a tumor on the spine. Problem is, she's already spent tons of money, and can't afford another $1,000 for an MRI to confirm diagnosis. Does anyone think LDN could help her dog? He seems in good spirits, but pretty much drags himself around using only his front legs...poor little guy! Thanks!
Hi Mel , Jake is a 92 lb shepherd and I give him 3mg with good results. He is still walking after "losing his back legs after every 3-5 steps,prior to starting the ldn. Have your friend do some research on Degenerative Myelopathy and see if it fits. DM in dogs is likened to MS in people. There is a treatment for DM from a Dr. Clemmons, but I found it to be very involved and pricey with ?? results. I opted for the ldn after much reading up on the various sites like this and www. lowdosenaltrexone.org and www. gazorpa.com among others. You won't find info on ldn for treatment in dogs so it's a decision your friend will have to present to her vet as most of them have never heard of ldn. Good luck to your friend and her dog.
Post by partnernaturally on Sept 5, 2008 6:45:17 GMT -6
Well my vet perscribed LDN for my dog and ordered it for my from Skip Pharmacy ( I think I may give her my first child, LOL). I should have it by Saturday. I hope it doesnt get logged down in the mail over the weekend. Anyway, I have been slowly decreasing the pred medication he is own and should have him off of it by tomarrow and ready to start the LDN. I am nervious but excited. Wish me/him LUCK! Anyone know how soon I should see a difference? I will keep you posted! Thanks for the support.
Hi Sharon, Jake's stability was apparent in 2-3 days. I say stability because jake never was completely down. He just would fall every few steps. The trouble was he could not get to his feet without assisstance. The ldn seemed to make him able to recover his back legs on his own.His gait is still sometimes unsteady with his back end swaying at times and he does still fall when on unlevel ground out back,or if he's trying to hurry, but he rights himself and walks on. I understand that jake is disabled, but my hope for ldn is to keep him out of a sling or cart as long as possible. Best of luck --- Please keep posting jackie
Post by partnernaturally on Sept 8, 2008 9:24:06 GMT -6
Well the LDN arrived today and I spilled some of it (of course) but still have plenty to get started. 2.5 is the dose. Beau weight is about 75 lbs. I noticed it is to be given at night (PM). Why is that? Also, may cause stomach upset. Beau is real sensitive in the G.I. area. Is there something I could do to try and make sure that he doesnt have a issue with G.I. upset? thank Sharon
For transdermal LDN read the link below. You'd probably have to shave a little hair off for this to absorb properly. If the liquid LDN you have is made with pure naltrexone powder and NOT the dissolved naltrexone tablets then your liquid LDN should be fine.
The LDN should only be given once per day and never be given before 9pm when we're off Daylight saving time(fall and winter) and never give LDN before 10pm during daylight saving time(spring and summer). This will insure that the LDN is in the system during peak endorphin production time of between 2am and 4am(the most endorphins are produced during this time and it is very important to take advantage of this to stop disease progression). Never give LDN twice within 24 hours. Read the LDN website and read the Further Q and A page while there, it's an important page and understanding how LDN works and why we take LDN in this manner is vital. LDN should not be given any later than 3am.
You may want to visit the Wikipedia free online encyclopedia and type in Low Dose Naltrexone, it gives a great explanation and is easier to read than the LDN website but please do still go to the LDN website.
Post by partnernaturally on Sept 8, 2008 10:22:46 GMT -6
Thanks Brenda, This is all so new and the Time to give this is sooooo important I thank you for making that very clear. I will get myself up to spend on this issue. I also wanted to ask Jackie if she started her Dog on the full dose or did she start on a reduce dose and work up. Brenda, what would be your recommedation on this? Sharon
Hi Sharon, I started Jake at 3mg ldn because he is 92lbs. I had read on one of the sites that people under 105 lb should only take 3mg . I have not had issue with gi upset. I measure the dose on 1/2 slice of bread and give it to Jake, right now at 10:00 because I am in daylight savings time. I use a dropper purchased at walgreens, that measures in ml. Last week I upped Jake's dose to 4.5 for 5 days to see if it would improve his symptoms of perianal fistula. It did not help those symptoms and Jake seemed more stiff legged, so I am back to 3 mg. 2.5mg seems good at 72#. Keep me posted please . jackie
Hi, Jackie. My GSD has DM, and the Clemmons protocol does not seem to be helping. I think I want to try the LDN, and I wondered if the success you had with it with Jake continued or stopped. I read somewhere that LDN increases euphoria and requires ever increasing doses to work.