I believe my husband has Habba syndrome or what is known as bile salts diarrhea even though he has his gall bladder. Tests and the Doc can not find a good reason for this chronic diarrhea that has persisted for almost a year now. It is like IBS -D but without pain or cramping, he just experiences diarrhea after every meal or after drinking a full glass of anything, even water.
We have tried almost every so called cure or remedy except cholestryamine which we may start soon. I was wondering if LDN could help fix the cause rather than just the symptoms. Does anybody have any ideas?
Have you had his yeast load and bacteria load checked? He may be colonized with pathogenic yeast and bacteria. This below by Dr. McCandless may be of some help. You may also contact her for your husband's extreme situation and she may go more indepth than this below for you, her email is firstname.lastname@example.org I do believe LDN can help but lets look for the cause while trying to heal.
The only way to know for sure if you have candida yeast overgrowth is to get a urinary dysbiosis test (measures by-products of yeast in the urine) - stool tests can often miss yeast, but the urine will show it. This is part of the Organic Acid Test (OAT) and is done by Metametrix, Great Plains, and Genova Labs - it must be ordered by a physician. The entire OAT (metametrix calls it Organix) tells you what vitamins you are missing and is a very good guage of your overall metabolic process, including toxicities and deficiencies. The dysbiosis part only measure the by-products of yeast and bacteria, and does not cost as much as the full test. This is one of the routine tests I get on all children with autism, as they have many metabolic disorders and most have yeast and bacteria and need to be treated for this to help them improve their health.
Any licensed physician can open up an account at Metametrix (www.metametrix.com) and order the organic acid test (OAT) kits to be sent to their clients to their home, he/she supplies a first morning urine to place in the test tube in the kit and mails that back to the lab which analyzes the results and sends them to your doctor. The retail cost is $538 but if you send your check or credit card in with the urine sample that is called "rapid pay" (they don't have to try to get insurance to pay, which unfortunately very seldom does for these specialty tests) and costs $323. It is an excellent test for showing what kind of vitamins you need, where your shortages are, and whether you have bacteria or yeast in your GI tract. To get sensitivities so you know what kind of anti-fungals or anti-bacterials you need, a comprehensive stool test is necessary, and I use Doctor's Data for that - (www.doctorsdata.com), this test costs $235 (also for "rapid pay"). This is also a kit that the lab sends to you and you mail it back with your sample and payment. Hope this helps. Dr. Jaquelyn McCandless
As usual, I need to emphasize that seldom is LDN a stand-alone treatment, but accompanies other strategies their body needs, especially a healthy diet. No sugar, dairy or gluten.
It takes some people longer to respond to LDN, and they may be colonized with pathogenic yeast and bacteria that could be slowing response.
There is a phenomenon that happens to some people that as the immune system is shifting (usually from T2 to T1) right after starting LDN, the immune system drops and people get an infection, cold, flu, cold sore, etc. which is usually short lived. Candida tends to overgrow or a virus will flare up. These infections are usually short-lived unless something like candida and gut bacteria needs treatment.
Are you a big bread/carbohydrate/sugar eater? Ever been tested for candida (yeast) or gut bacterial infestation?
Would you be willing to stop all casein (milk products) and gluten (wheat, rye, barley and oats) for a week and see if you feel better? A study done several years ago showed that 30% of us have some degree of celiac disease (intolerance/allegy to wheat) even though the clinical symptoms may not be obvious enough to alert most people to that. When anyone in that 30% of persons stops eating wheat, they feel a lot better. Dr. Jaquelyn McCandless
Q: Dr. JM or anyone- Does LDN cause candida?
A: LDN has been noted to aggravate yeast infections and other latent pathogens, viruses, etc. as the immune system is making early adjustments. It is good to have natural yeast remedies on board when LDN is started (grapefruit seed extract, Candex, lauricidin, hi-potency probiotics, etc) to help offset this possibility. (And of course a good dietary regime that does not encourage gut inflammation which is usually the predecessor to pathogen invasion).
He has not had the bacteria, yeast test but they did test for the usual parasites with a stool test. That was negative. He has tried large doses of coconut oil which is supposed to be anti yeast/candida.
My husband has a great low GI diet. Hardly any grain, mostly just berries for fruit. While I could be wrong, I don't think it's yeast overgrowth. His tongue is clear and he does not have any of the other candida problems I have read about. I think it would be good to do the test to rule that problem out but we don't have that sort of money right now. I really think it is the gall bladder not reabsorbing bile. Bile is a laxative, thus the constant diarrhea.
I'm not sure if LDN will help his issue or not. I have heard of the good results with chron's but do you know of others who have had success with just IBS type sympotm?
We have tried many probiotics to try and restore good bacteria to the bowel, including Garden of life soil organisms. All to no avail. Can grapefruit seed extract kill off yeast on it's own? We use it when we feel colds and flr viruses coming on.